B-17G-80-VE 44-8471 "Winged Warrior"
REFERENCE
PHOTOS
Below are the reference photos I have of "Winged Warrior" Eventually, I'll probably be adding photos of other 95th Bomb Group B-17's. Trying to figure out markings and manufacturing variations is not a simple task. You try to get as much information as you can from photos, and what you can't find direct evidence of, you have to make educated guesses at by looking at other B-17's from the 95th in the same time frame of 1944-1945. Even with photos, things can still be murky. With black and white photos how do you determine colors? Some things like national insignia are pretty standard. Nose art, on the other hand is specific to each aircraft. |
This is far and away the best photo I've seen of "Winged Warrior". Things I've
learned from this photo: - Forward windshield is divided into 2 panes for each side. The small outer panel is hinged so it can be opened. This window arrangement is not nearly as common as the usual 1 pane per side windshield design. - Windshield wipers. Apparently not all B-17s had wipers. One source I read said that the divided windshield with the hinged panel was used until wipers became standard. So naturally, "Winged Warrior" has both. - Looks to be the stub of an antenna to the right of the astrodome. Some B-17's did have an antenna mast here. Some B-17's also have a sort of whip antenna to the right of the astrodome. That might be present in the photo above, or it might just be a scratch on the photo. There is another antenna directly in front of the dome, the mast of which has been painted black or Olive Drab. - Top turrent looks to be the standard Bendix turret. In this photo it looks like it is facing forward, but there are no guns installed. - Stripe painted around nose. (This stripe is red based on the squadron) - Olive Drab anti-glare panels painted on nose and inner portions of engine nacelles. - Data stencil
might be non standard. Nornally the first line says something like: -The other B-17 in this photo has a de-icer boot on the vertical tail, but apparently no boots on the wing. |
This is the
only other photo I've seen showing the nose art of "Winged Warrior". Things I've
learned from this photo: - The words "WINGED WARRIOR" have an obvious "drop shadow" (though it's lighter than the main letters) but it only shows up beneath the first word. (Looks the same in the first photo as well). |
Crew photo.
(Robert Newman is in the center, back row) Things I've
learned from this photo: - Location of the star/bar insignia. This is pretty standard for a late war B-17G with staggered waist gun positions.. What is also useful is what you don't see painted on the fuselage. Earlier in the war 95th B-17's had large call letters painted on the fuselage. Towards the end of the war, these were no longer used. Which seems to be the case here. |
Crew photo.
(Robert Newman is in the center, front row) Things I've
learned from this photo: -Robert Newman
had/has nice teeth. |
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